nwg

See this topic for details as known and some pics:

http://nwg.freeforums.org/napoleon-total-war-t761.html


So, its no longer in any doubt, there will be an official CA released N:TW. I imagine we'll hear from the Lordz in the next little bit that NTW3 will be based upon N:TW, it would make total sense to use the upcoming release in this way.

However, the release is February 2010, or later knowing these things slip. What does this mean for us MP players in the meantime, or even afterwards?

I assume anyone reading this will be a Napoleonic enthusiast, we are the "Napoleonic War Gamers" after all. Will we all shelve ETW shortly after NTW arrives? Seems a high probability.

In the mean time the talented modders have been hacking away at ETW and producing some really great stuff, but in many cases you can see the frustration at being limited to <1790-1800 and the games/mods produced have been Napoleonic in feel even though the uniforms have been early to mid 1700's - should we all now take a deep breath and make the mod focus for ETW entirely pre French Revolution?

Moopere

It is announced with a video- It is a seperate game like I said. Not an expansion. For all the info go to here and click on the link: http://www.totalwar.com/

Finally! It has three campaigns; Italy, Egypt and the mastery of Europe.
The graphics look stunning and is set to be released in February 2010. So less than a year to go!

and re- . That remembers me the announces from LG around 8 years ago. Prepare to be patient, old fellow .

Incidently, note LG is not out of the box , we only hope so.

Make that a 100% probability, think about this, Nap TW can not, any way, any how, be WORSE than Empire TW, so Empire will die it's death very quickly.....you have to wonder what's going on here, was Empire a beta test for Nap TW ?.

Yes, indeed! This is my thinking too. As an expansion I would have smiled a little wryly and understood the gouge for cash as we've all seen it before. An expansion usually costs 30-60% of the original title.

But to pretend its a whole new game does indeed make you wonder what the hell we actually purchased back in March this year....a beta as you say? Its all a bit poor really.

Anyway, as I've said elsewhere, I'm an idiot and will feed the hungry monster no matter how much I complain by turning up on day #1 with my money in hand.

Sad isn't it?

One has to wonder then if the much advertised MP campaign will _ever_ arrive for ETW, let alone the likewise much advertised modding tools.


Moo.

I will also get it on day one and I will expect it to be a lot better than Empire - no doubt at all......even if we joke about Empire being a beta test, it kind of is, even if it wasn't....if you follow me.

Hmm im not sure we ditch ETW so readily.

Remember we have Tac War which is fantastic, and if as i suspect NAP WAR will need some serious modding to be where we want it in terms of gameplay, then there may still be some life in ETW.
OK i may be totally wrong and because it will have all those lovely Nap uniforms etc we will struggle on with it and all its problems while the modders sort out the rubbish.

My thoughts in opening this thread were really to ponder if we should abandon the idea of a semi Napoleonic mod for ETW altogether and really concentrate on say The Seven Years War for instance (1754-1763). We've been sort of ponderously circling around the idea of Napoleonic tactics and performance with older uniforms since March.

Perhaps we should leave this fancy behind and concentrate on the possibility of building a really nice mid 1700's mod with good uniform accuracy and stats? Hidden in there was further pondering about whether we'd even play such a mod once a solid NTW mod appeared?? Maybe we wouldn't?????

Insofar as waiting to tweak up NTW, I bet it will be quick, perhaps only a day or two from release because despite what the scant information says I'd lay a bet that the engine is pure ETW with a few fixes. So, most current mods should port across with very little breakage. This is my guess anyway.

Regards, Moo

Not for me, Tac War will do for me till LG arrives, and then till Nap TW arrives, if LG is not good for MP play - which is now my only worry about LG.

I don't see the point in all this mod business, find one you like and stick with it, Tac War is now building a decent base of players, to give it up now would be a big error - unless Moon goes and wrecks it with future changes, which is always a risk.

LG is only 5 weeks away, barring any delay, then Tac War and everything else will take a back seat any how. BUT, having said that, all these games will still be used by someone, like ntw2 is being used a fair bit still - surprise surprise.

I don't know if it will need any modding, It might be a huge improvment and take us back to the RTW days in terms of gameplay. It could be great and they might do some serious work on it! Now they know what they want in musket games they might make this the best one yet!

But If we could get a few mods onto this to make it completely better. So that it has better and different units!

Anyway, only time will tell. BTW, I'm going on holiday for a little while, see ya!

I wasn't really suggesting abandoning it, more encouraging Moon with what he says he wants to do anyway, which is build a mid 18th century mod. For the longest time we've all either hinted or simply directly challenged him to build a Napoleonic Mod. It _was_ called NBG for a long while remember?

So, my point is this, if N:TW is on its way anyhow there would seem almost no point at all in trying to hack our way to a compromise position with ETW, why not do the full business and create a fantastic SYW mod?

Moon is already three quarters of the way there, to think that nothing will change in eTW each time its released (once a month) is to set yourself up for disappointment I suspect.



Yep, which is what started this thread. The SYW period was pretty interesting. Interesting enough to have volumes of rules and even miniatures cast specifically to cater for this short period. I'm wondering aloud if there is likely to be enough ongoing interest to really put in a big effort to produce a mod that has the right uniforms and the right weapons/units for SYW.

Perhaps there isn't. I've always found ways to avoid even early Napoleonic times (1796) in my previous gaming experience, so perhaps its all a bit academic.

Moopere

Napoleon: Total War Official Site

http://www.totalwar.com/napoleon/?t=EnglishUK

...and some concept art: