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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:26 pm 
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A lot going on.....maybe this will be what we hoped Empire was going to be ?.

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Well I'm excited its what a lot of us want, its after all what we hope for from the the Lordz.

My guess is although it looks like a new game, it might as well be an expansion for ETW because thats all it will be.
But i don't really mind that, as we are enjoying the best games ever with the ETW engine.

It will hopefully give all modders a lot more scope, as the promised major modding tools have not yet and may never materialise.

Feb 2010 is about 1 year after ETW release so the standard TW timing for an expansion pack.

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There is a [small ?] chance it won't need to be modded !,,,,,well, we can always hope.

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24 August

Kieran Brigden / CA Staff wrote:
Dear All,

The reaction on the forums to the recent announcement of Napoleon has suggested there is a level of misunderstanding about a few points. I'd like to shed light on a few of these, directly, if I may.

Why are you releasing another TW game without fixing Empire?

We have not given up on supporting Empire. The major AI upgrade patch is still very much being worked on and is coming shortly. It will be with you a good while before Napoleon's release. Napoleons development is ongoing, just as our support of Emprie is ongoing.
We recognise Empire had problems on release and we've dealt with the vast majority of stability and performance issues people are having. We now need to balance and address gameplay issues. The AI particularly. We have listened to everything you have said and are looking to address as much as possible. Empire has not been forgotten and a major gameplay upgrade is coming, and coming soon.

Why did you lie about releasing an MP campaign? Where is it?

The MP Campaign for Empire has always been a beta product. However, despite it simply being a test of the technology we still want it to be fun and enjoyable, something that's worth your time and our effort. So we've been working on it since release, building it to a state where its stable enough to beta test by you all and is indeed a great deal of fun to play. The MP Campaign Beta has not been forgotten, work is ongoing and it will be released before Napoleon allowing us time to absorb your comments and feedback (Which is ultimately the point of a public beta). To stress: Empire's MPC Beta is still under development and will be coming shortly it has not been dropped or forgotten and will be available soon.

Why do you never give dates for anything? I want to know when I can get my hands on these things!

Wer've learned about giving dates to the community. The understandable anger we've faced when we've given specific dates and not met them is not worth the little comfort given by us mentioning a specific date (Which you must still wait for). All development has a level of risk attached to it, that is the chance that it will not make a specific day for delivery. We've stopped communicating exact dates as a result of feedback from you. The Empire patch and the MPC beta will be released a significant while before Napoleon, which is scheduled for a first quarter 2010 release.

Why are you releasing Napoleon seperately when all it's content should have been in Empire?

The simple answer to this is that Napoloeons content shouldn't and couldnt have been in Empire. Napoleon is a game in it's own right. It spans three full campaigns, not missions or theatres, three sperate campaigns each with their own maps, factions, missions, opponents, story and unique features. In short: It is big.

Napoleon focuses on a man and his destiny and how this is tied to the rise of a nation, a man who defined an era. Empire was a very seperate theme, defining the interplay of actions between nations over a turbulent period of history.

These are two very different games.

We couldn't, nor would we, have added Napoleon into Empire. It's a huge piece of work worthy of its own title.

Admit it, you're going to give up on Empire and try to sell us another game aren't you?

Not at all. After the major AI upgrade patch that is coming we're going to announce another major piece of DLC for Empire, adding more content to its universe and expanding the game even further. Empire is a title into which we put a lot of time and effort, and to which you all gave a great deal of patience post release. We won't walk away from that. So there is more coming.

You do not need Napoleon to enjoy Empire or play Empire, they are two seperate games. Naturally we'd like people to go for both, but we recognise that choice is yours. Whether you chose one, none or both we want to make your experience reflect our time and energy and be as enjoyable as possible.

Does the community reaction to CA's announcements make any difference?

Yes, and always yes. The point of a public beta to the Multi Player Campaign is to get your feedback, the reason for this post is because we're reading and listening to what you say. There's a lot of reaction to what we've announced with Napoleon and some of it is based on misunderstanding. That's because we're at an early stage of development, we only announced on Wednesday last week and there are a lot of different facts and theories floating around. If you have questions post them here or bug a website or magazine to ask us and we'll answer. Please understand some of what is written is speculation and unless its a specific quote from us it may simply be informed opinion.

Finally, sometimes the community reaction is uplifting and othertimes it is demotivating. We recognise that there's a lot of desire out there to see us do better, given some peoples Empire's release experience. We hope that given the sheer amount of attention we've paid to Empire since it's release and the extras we're looking to provide that we will prove by our action that we're not just here to sell games. We love TW, thats why we make it, and we want you to enjoy it too, as that is ultimately it's purpose. Criticism is always welcome, if its positive and constructive we're far more likely to take ti on board and listen.

As always any further questions please post them here and look out for further Napoleon coverage as it comes.

Kind regards,
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Well thats pretty heartening. Its hard to know how much is spin and how much is likely to be truth but at least they are saying something positive and the community will definitely hold them accountable after a statement like that.

Good find Ank. I for one am mightily looking forward to the MP campaign. No mention of modding tools there so I guess they are off until at least NTW if they come at all, nevertheless, we're well into modding ETw even without them.

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Its meant to come with a voice command thing. And a unit model editor. The voice command will probably be a fail and i don't like the idea of a unit editor, because it will mean that we will be having pink British Hussars.

Do you think that they will run this game on Staem after some of the steam complaints.

It was a stupid move because only 2% of the worlds population has internet so they only are opening their market to 2% of the world because you need internet to install. What about the people with computers but no internet. Geese, they don't think!

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Marshal Beale wrote:
Its meant to come with a voice command thing. And a unit model editor. The voice command will probably be a fail and i don't like the idea of a unit editor, because it will mean that we will be having pink British Hussars.


The model editor, if thats what it really is going to be, will allow talented community members to build entirely new unit types with new models, this is a good thing for us historical gamers as it allows us the ultimate flexibility. At the moment the community has been able to produce a vast number of really high quality skins/textures but only within the bounds of the models available ... thus our lancers have lances that are too short and the hat models are too small to allow shakos (for example). A model editor would change this.


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Do you think that they will run this game on Staem after some of the steam complaints.

It was a stupid move because only 2% of the worlds population has internet so they only are opening their market to 2% of the world because you need internet to install. What about the people with computers but no internet. Geese, they don't think!


Yep, I think they will and heres why:

- They have written off pirated copies anyway. Steam doesn't affect Pirates as they can use the game without paying and without restriction of any type
- They can offload almost all the work and cost involved in hosting and maintaining patches on their users games. Support costs must be a power of magnitude lower even given that they are presumably paying Steam to manage it for them
- DLC, quick easy and extremely tasty for the software house. Add a few bibs n bobs, 5 bucks and badda-bing-badda-bam you can make US$100K over a single weekend.
- Even when CA and Sega no longer care about the game (about 12 months from now) they will make a regular if small income from sales that come in from Steam

I hate steam with a passion. Its bugs me so much that if it were not for ETW Mods and it being the only game in town (right now) I'd not be using it. However, for folks looking to make an easy buck with very little ongoing and support effort I can fully understand why the different software authors are choosing to use it.

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Man what a load of crock from K at CA.

some of it is heartening. But that Napoleon's timeframe should, and could, never have been in ETW? They should read their own press releases. It was promised.

A bunch of politicking answers that make me realize CA's business ethics would "physic a snipe and give you the trotting disorder."

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Yep, all pretence is dropped now, its just an out and out grab for your wallet. Frankly, ETW owners should be given NTW for free (ha! As if) as payment for beta testing the game that they should have made.

Moo.

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I was quite keen on this at first, but now I'm not so sure I will even bother with it. If LG is as good as I expect, I will not bother, if LG dis-appoints, then I may do, but that's like a 100/1 shot.

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Well i have been having numerous discussions with CA over NTW, (you could say I'm the Napoleonic communities inside man, lol) and they tell me that the screenshots you have seen so far are not what is going to be in the game, secondly that they are going to try and make it a historic as possible and thirdly that they can't promise that it is going to be the perfect game and they can't say that the historical accuarcy is 100% but it's damn close!

Yet we will see if this is all true eventually! Personally, going by ETW, it might be a load of s#*t!

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General Beale wrote:
Well i have been having numerous discussions with CA over NTW, (you could say I'm the Napoleonic communities inside man, lol)


Ok, well, if you have an email address or other contact mechanism I'd really like to find out what it is - I've been searching all morning and aside from posting random comments on various forums hoping that the CA dev's pick it up I'm at a loss.

Are CA scanning forums looking for reported bugs or is there a central email address that we're supposed to use which I just can't seem to find?

Seems like a new patch is coming, 1.5, and soon, end of October probably, so I want the chance to let the CA devs know:

- Battle sounds missing from replays when mod's are involved
- We desperately need a UI change when setting up armies to allow players to see each others money spend. Any sort of weighted (handicapped) tournaments are doomed without this
- Sprite blobs, I don't think CA actually knows about this problem

Cheers, M.

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Ok, i have asked CA of your questions, but they just keep replying that we cannot aswer any further more questions and that all questions will be answered shortly after the Warparth Campaign release via www.totalwar.com and Steam. i think they are sending out auto replys now! what a load of rubbish!

The 2 e-mails I did recieve back from CA I only got not long before the release of 1.4 and the announcment of the warparth campaign. So they are trying to create a word of mouth going around but they don't seem to want to confirm anything. This shows that CA is like a movie, it's trying to build up suspence but then phhhhhhhhhh! Nothing!

Anyway, back to Napoleon TW, argh!!! Screw it, I'm just waiting for LG!

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