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 Post subject: Sweden and Brunswick in CB
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:01 am 
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The above two are the only ones without any Militia troops, which is a big dis-advanatge in the wiki / CB games.....If you happen to play those two factions with about 10k you will need to field LESS than 20 units - which may be fair enough of course.

A thought occures, if these nations had no "official" Militia troops, can a NEW unit be created, say a SUB STANDARD line unit, with stats much like others Militia, this would then give those two factions a chance to field the same size armies as other factions when fighting with small florins.

Only a thought for the future, not for now.

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 Post subject: Re: Sweden and Brunswick in CB
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:57 am 
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The above two are the only ones without any Militia troops, which is a big dis-advanatge in the wiki / CB games.....If you happen to play those two factions with about 10k you will need to field LESS than 20 units - which may be fair enough of course.

A thought occures, if these nations had no "official" Militia troops, can a NEW unit be created, say a SUB STANDARD line unit, with stats much like others Militia, this would then give those two factions a chance to field the same size armies as other factions when fighting with small florins.

Only a thought for the future, not for now.


Yes its always something I'd hoped to be able to do. Brunswick also lacks a howitzer unit, yet I'm sure that the "Black Brunswickers" must have had access to British Howies.

However, I've got to be honest, with ETW looming large and the high hopes a lot of folks have for it I'm not sure that a lot of effort directed at further developing NTW2 at this late stage would be effort well spent.

Whilst it would be extremely simple to just reuse existing units and simply recost them in conjunction with the standard units I fear this would be far far too confusing on the field....to be effective we'd really need to change facing colours or do -something- which allows the sub standard units to be identified.

For the two nations you cite I can only suggest (for now) to use the 'lights' that are available. At 400f they are still pretty expensive to be used as militia but then Prussia and the Dutch are now forced to pay 325 for their militia so perhaps its not so improbable.

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Yes, that makes sense.

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For the two nations you cite I can only suggest (for now) to use the 'lights' that are available. At 400f they are still pretty expensive to be used as militia but then Prussia and the Dutch are now forced to pay 325 for their militia so perhaps its not so improbable.

This is what I was planning to do, as best as is possible, use the cheapest troops and of course get the advantage that they are better units than other's Militia....maybe 17-18 units might be possible.

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Well obviously guys i have been wrestling with this issue as I'm playing with Sweden also, and yes the answer is a large number of lights.
Not really ideal against a strong mêlée nation like Russia :cry: :cry:
I get the feeling that the Swedes are going to be quite a challenge.
And to think i picked them for there pretty uniforms :lol: :lol:


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The Swedes, as with the Ottomans, have been the subject of a lot of bad press in the NTW2 world - don't believe the hype though, like all the other factions all that was really needed was a recosting and a willingness to fight with their strengths and not their inherent weaknesses.

I've used a Swedes a little bit myself and after I stopped trying to force fit them into a Russian melee model of tactics I did a lot better....

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